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  Ages of each user here?

  by ukpimo in

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  i'm interested to know the age demographics here.

  it must be significantly different to other exjw forums.

  it would be a damning report for watchtower if most of us appear to have left for decades.. you don't have to mention your exact age, you could always say "in my 50s".. i am in my 70s.

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  JW GoneBad

  I've been around the block with this cult for decades & decades. I remember the 1975 fiasco/disaster well.
  
  I remember the May 22nd 1969 Awake (What Future For Young Ones) foretelling that young ones don't need higher education b/c they wouldn't grow old in this system of things.
  
  I remember service meeting parts in 1981 where elder bodies were instructing entire congregations to literally trash Raymond Franz's blue book (Aid To Bible Understanding) after he'd been removed as GB member & disfellowshipped.
  
  I remember in the 60s, 70s, 80s & continuing to 2019 when JWs viewed themselves as the Locusts of Joel chapter 2. Then at 2019 Annual Meeting GB conehead David Splane corrected the understanding saying that the Locusts of Joel chapter 2 were not JWs after all...rather the Locusts are actually enemies of God.

  I remember in the 80s cover-ups by WT Headquarters & body of elders of pedophiles in the congregations.

  Over the years I've known of way too many suicides, murder suicides as well as plane Ole JW murders. Just recently a JW murders his JW parents including family pet in a community on West Coast called San Juan Capistrano, California.

  Over the years I know of way too much wrongdoing, contradictions & discrepancies by this cult...seriously!
  
  Today I'm approaching my 80s & have been celebrating freedom for the last 20 years...Yay!
  
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  Members of congregation know it’s not true

  by Mikejw in

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  2. experiences

  we have lonely old folks and even some not so old.. they know the gb are not who they claim to be.. but they stay in the congregation because they are lonely.

  i wonder what percentage of jws this is the case, i would guess a lot.

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  "it is better to be wrong & inside the Truth than to be “right outside the truth “

  
  I know of a number of JWs who feel this way...many of them are elders. With each passing week, month & year the number of those coming to the realization that this organization is led by a bunch of meatheads is rapidly growing. The amount of recent nonsensical WT GB doctrinal changes is surely going to create larger numbers of PIMOs & yes increase the numbers who will still adopt the thinking: "Yes, I'll stick around even though this organization is run by a leadership of boneheads!"
  
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  2024-08-August-Edition-of-Watchtower!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  it was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .

  https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .

  leopold.

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  JW GoneBad

  With all the JW changes & adjustments that appear in this new August 2024 Watchtower Study Edition there is one expression missing that normally goes hand in hand when WT comes up with revisions and changes to doctrines and teachings...the missing expression is 'New Light'. Strangely, what is also missing in this August 2024 magazine is any reference to Proverbs 4:18.
  
  Begs the question: Is the WTBTS finally getting it right & distancing itself from the thousands of times it's misused and it's misapplication of this scripture???
  
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  2024-08-August-Edition-of-Watchtower!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  it was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .

  https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .

  leopold.

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  JW GoneBad

  I can confirm and assure you that it is legit.

  Thank you Caminante for the reassurance that it's all legit. Can't wait to see how it all plays out...no way in hell these changes are going to do WT any damn good...Yay!

  
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  2024-08-August-Edition-of-Watchtower!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .

  https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .

  leopold.

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  JW GoneBad

  (Assuming this leaked August 2024 Watchtower is legit)
  
  Wow!...Lesson Article 33 (page 14) 'How The Congregation Can Imitate Jehovah’s View Of Sinners' reveals just how the WTBTS organization has screwed with millions of people's lives for decades and decades!
  
  After decades and decades (since the 1950s) of disfellowshipping & shunning hundreds of thousands, easily into the millions, of rank & file members & making them wait over a year, then requiring 'wrongdoers' to summit reinstatement letters after reinstatement letters before accepting them back into the fold...finally the WTBTS gets it right!
  
  It took nearly 75 years for WT Leadership Governing Body to realize that the Apostle Paul had instructed the 1st century Corinthian Judicial Committee of older men who disfellowshipped a man for adultery (1 Cor. 5:1-5) to initiate a welcoming back for this man into the congregation only after a few months (2 Cor. 2:5-8) of being disfellowshipped! And get this...the adulter didn't have to take any initiative like groveling and submitting reinstatement requests! The Apostle Paul, in so many words instructed the Judicial Committee to get off their asses & welcome the sinner back with open arms...and only after a few months of discipline mind you!
  
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  2024-08-August-Edition-of-Watchtower!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .

  https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .

  leopold.

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  JW GoneBad

  Really...in WT world scheming to end a marriage is one of Jehovah’s Witnesses top 3 worse sins next to CSA & Apostasy? I know CSA cases & related concerns are very problematic among Jehovah’s Witnesses and the ex-JW community (aka Apostasy) is growing by leaps & bounds. But was it that necessary to specify 'Scheming To End A Marriage' among the top 3 disfellowshipping offenses unless it's really an epidemic among Jehovah’s Witnesses?

  This is how I would summarize the 2024 August Watchtower Study Edition:

  If you're a current JW...not only should you keep a close watch for pedophiles in your congregations...but there must a great deal of JWs who are on the fence...questioning and having serious doubts about their belief system. And if you're a current married JW how intact is your marriage?

  Wow...just Wow!
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  Assembly Attendence

  by Riley in

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  i am in western canada.

  we use to have our assembly in saskatoon.

  our assembly has moved to medicine hat.

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  JW GoneBad

  I'm hearing that most 2024 English JW Regional Conventions held at the Long Beach Convention Center in Southern California are averaging in the low 4,000s even though the Convention Center itself can hold upwards of 13,500.

  I've also heard that many of the JWs who are attending these conventions and viewing all the empty seats are asking themselves: "Where Is Everybody!" 🤣
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  Should Women Be Given Authority In God's Congregation?

  by Golden4Altar in

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  2. beliefs

  should women be given authority in god's congregation?yorww congregation manuscript #1009in the beginning, god created man and woman, created both them in his "image," and according to his likeness.

  this means, of course, jehovah god originally endowed both man and woman with the same capabilities and qualities of his own likeness.

  thus, man and woman have the same god-given abilities, gifts and attributes so as to reflect all the "fruits of the spirit" and godly qualities in their lives, if they so desire.

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  JW GoneBad

  I think the title of this opening post should read:

  Should Women Be Given Authority In The Cult's Organization?

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  Are the halls of the Kingdom filling up, are they the same as before the pandemic or are they emptying?

  by LaFrancia in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i open a new topic, to find out how it's going in your area.

  from what i see as a southern european in my constituency the situation is patchy.. the congregation where i am now has 30% old people on zoom but also young couples with almost all their cameras off.

  no increase but a slight decrease in the total number of publishers.. circuit assemblies: before covid you couldn't find a free seat if you arrived 10 minutes before the start.

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  JW GoneBad

  Just talked to a friend from another local JW congregation with similar size congregation...150 to 160 total publishers. This is how he described this past Sunday's meeting:
  
  1) First 6 rows practically
  empty...everyone was seated in the back rows.

  2) 75 were in attendance...in-person.
  
  3) A lot of new folks...people he didn't know.
  
  4) 45 were on Zoom.
  
  5) The rest (upwards of 50+ publishers) were unaccounted for.
  
  Who gives a rat's ass about other religions & their attendance figures...we here on this forum should be elated that Watchtower World is bleeding-out...Yaaaaay!
  
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  Are the halls of the Kingdom filling up, are they the same as before the pandemic or are they emptying?

  by LaFrancia in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i open a new topic, to find out how it's going in your area.

  from what i see as a southern european in my constituency the situation is patchy.. the congregation where i am now has 30% old people on zoom but also young couples with almost all their cameras off.

  no increase but a slight decrease in the total number of publishers.. circuit assemblies: before covid you couldn't find a free seat if you arrived 10 minutes before the start.

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  JW GoneBad

  The name Watchtower and the name Jehovah’s Witnesses for decades have been synonymous with the words cult, toxic, cruel, harsh...words in that vein. Today another word that is synonymous with WT & JWs is 'decline'. Adults and families are no longer drawn to this dangerous organization.
  
  WT is no longer expecting growth from an outside source...the general public. No, currently WT is banking on it's growth to come from within...toddlers & children. They've been heavily investing in children indoctrination for the past 10 to 15 years.
  
  Watchtower also stopped investing in facilities (Kingdom Halls) that at one time could accommodate gatherings or congregations of upwards of 200+ members. Today large Kingdom Halls are being sold off due to low meeting attendance or due to congregations, for whatever reason, that are shrinking in size. Where it is not feasible to sell off large Kingdom Halls, WT is restructuring surrounding congregations...merging & consolidating them for the appearance of fuller attendance and eliminating numerous non-performing congregations in the process resulting in many disgruntled JW rank and file having to travel longer distances to attend in-person meetings.
  
  Much smaller Kingdom Halls, where warranted are being built that will accommodate much smaller congregations...75 members or less.
  
  So back to the opening post questions:
  
  Are Kingdom Halls filling-up? No!
  
  Are Kingdom Halls emptying? Yes!